The Rollei Connection

Despite the company’s distinguished reputation as a fabricator, Rollei commonly partnered with, and outsourced to, the best German glassmakers rather than producing their own lenses. For cameras, Rollei has been synonymous with Goerz, Zeiss and Schneider, but within Delta’s purview – projection and enlargement lenses reversed for use as capture optics – the most relevant partnerships were with Schneider/Isco, or Schneider and Isco, as it/they were sometimes known.

Although Rollei branded their packaging, many of the lenses themselves omit maker’s marks, blurring the distinction between externally sourced and in-house developed optics. However, hiding among the catalogue there are not only a number of desirable taking lenses, but a surprising number that Rollei developed and produced – a timeline and roll call of which follows shortly.

First, though, it will be helpful to observe the following organisational milestones:

1922Establishment of Franke and Heidecke in Brunswick, Germany
1939-1947No new cameras designed, and the Brunswick factory was bombed.
Post-war reorganisation.
1962Company name changed to Rollei-Werke Franke & Heidecke
1972Rollei takes over the Voigtländer brand following the collapse of Zeiss Ikon
1978Rollei taken over by Schneider
1979Company is renamed Rollei-Werke Franke & Heidecke GmbH & Co KG
1982Bankruptcy declared. Following a buy-out the company is reorganised as Rollei Fototechnic GmbH
1987Company rebrands as Rollei Fototechnic GmbH & Co KG
2009-2010Following a declaration of insolvency, production was partly recommenced by DHW Fototechnik
2014DHW Fototechnik declares insolvency
2015Company assets purchased by RCD

Silma (Italy?) 1983

Secondly, we will chart the full chronology of Rollei projectors, before disambiguating the four ‘families’ of Rollei-supplied lenses and offering observations about and images from the most interesting examples.

Rollei Slide Film Projectors

ModelProductionLens OptionsCatalogue #
Rollei P11 Universal Projector
(74mm barrel)
1960-1978Heidosmat 45/2.8
Frank & Heidecke Heidosmat 110/2.8
Vario-Heidosmat 110-160/3.5
Franke & Heidecke Heidosmat 150/2.8
Rollei Heidosmat 150/2.8
S-Heidosmat 150/2.8
Heidosmat 180/3.5
Heidosmat 250/3.0
Heidosmat 400/4.0
610 240
610 200
979 030


979 510
610 220
610 230
979 040
Rolleiscop (for 35mm)
(46mm barrel)
1965- >196950/2.8 [Isco]
85/2.8
110/2.8
8829 67
8816 33
8833 00
Rollei P35 A and P35 AF
(42.5mm barrel)
1968-1981Rollei-Projar 50/2.8 [Isco]
Rollei-Projar 85/2.8 [Isco]
Rollei-S-Projar 90/2.5*
Rollei Vario-Projar 70-120/3.5
Rollei Projar 150/3.5*
979 380
979 390
979 500
979 410
979 770
Rollei P37 and P37 AF
(42.5mm barrel)
1972-1978Rollei-Projar 50/2.8
Rollei-Projar 85/2.8 [Isco]
Rollei S-Projar 90/2.5
Rollei Vario-Projar 70/120
Rollei-Projar 15/3.5
979 380
979 390
979 500
979 410
979 770
Rolle P37 E
(42.5mm barrel)
Rollei-Projar 85/2.8
Rollei P66 A and P66 AF (for 6×6)
(74mm barrel)
1973- >1975Heidosmat 150/3.5
S-Heidosmat 150/2.8
Heidosmat 180/3.5
Heidosmat 110-160/3.5
Heidosmat 250/3.0
Heidosmat 400/4.0
979 780
979 510
610 225
979 035
610 235
979 910
Rollei P300
(42.5mm barrel)
Rollei P350 A
(42.5mm barrel)
1974-1980Rollei Projar 50/2.8
Rollei-Projar 85/2.8 [Isco]
Rollei S-Projar 90/2.5
Rollei Vario-Projar 70-120/3.5
Rollei Projar 150/3.5
979 380
979 390
979 500
979 410
979 770

Rollei P350 AF
(42.5mm barrel)
1974-1980Rollei Projar 50/2.8
Heidosmat 85/2.8 [Rollei Singapore]
Rollei S-Projar 90/2.5
Rollei Vario-Projar 70-120/3.5
Rollei Projar 150/3.5
3/3 (Singapore)
Rollei P3800
(Twin 42.5mm barrels)
1976- >1980V/S-Heidosmat 90mm f2.4 [V1]
Heidosmat 85/2.8 M
Rollei PM35A Diamat S and SEHeidosmat 85/2.83/3 (Singapore)
Rollei P360 A and P360 AF
(42.5mm barrel)
1977Heidosmat 85/2.8 MC3/3 (Singapore)
Rollei P300 and P300 Autofocus
(42.5mm barrel)

Heidosmat 85/2.83/3 (Singapore)
Rollei P320 A
(42.5mm barrel)
1978
Rollei P355 A and P355 AF
(42.5mm barrel)
1978Heidosmat 85/2.8 MC3/3 (Singapore)
Rollei P360 AF IR
(42.5mm barrel)
1980Projar 50/2.8 (979 380)
Heidosmat 85/2.8 (979 390) [Isco]
Heidosmat MC 90/2.4 (S?) (979 394)
Vario-Projar 70-120/3.5 (979 410) [Isco]
Projar 150/3.5 (979 770) [Isco]
979 380
979 390
5 / 5

Rollei P3801 and P3801 S
(AKA P801 and P801S)
(42.5mm barrel)
1982Heidosmat 50/2.8 (203 310) [Isco]
Heidosmat 85/2.8 MC (979 380) [Isco]
V/S-Heidosmat MC 90/2.4 (979 391) [Isco]
Heidosmat 150/3.5 (979 770)
Vario-Heidosmat 70-120/3.5 (979 410)
Heidosmat 250/4.3 (610 245) [Isco]
3/3 (Singapore)
Rollei P305
(42.5mm barrel)
1981Heidosmat 85/2.8 MC [Rollei]3/3 (Singapore)
Rollei P66 S
(74mm barrel)
1980- >1983Heidosmat 150/3.5 (979 780) [Rollei]
S-Heidosmat 150/2.8 (979 510)
Heidosmat 180/3.5 (610 225)
Heidosmat 250/3.0 (610 235)
Heidosmat 400/4.0 (979 910)
Vario-Heidosmat 110-160 (979 035)





Black version
Rolleivision 35 Twin
(42.5mm barrel)
1984-1988V/S Heidosmat 90/2.4
Rolleivision 66 (for 6×6)
(74mm barrel)
1986-1997Heidosmat 110-160/3.5
Schneider AV-Xenotar 150/2.8 HFT
Rolleivision 66 AV (for 6×6)
(74mm barrel)
1998Schneider AV-Xenotar 150/2.8 HFT
Rolleivison 66 Dual P (for 6×6)
(74mm barrel)
c.1999-2014Rollei AV-Apogon:
90/2.8 + 120/2.8
Schneider AV-Xenotar:
90/3.5 + 150/2.8
+ 250/4 + 400/4
Rollei Heidosmat 180/3.5
Rollei S-Heidosmat 150/3.5
74mm
Rolleivision 35 Twin Digital and P
(Twin 42.5mm barrel)
1989-1995
Rolleivision 2500 AFS IR
(42.5mm barrel)
c.1990
Rolleivision Twin MSC 300P
(Twin 42.5mm barrels)
1993-2014Schneider AV-Xenotar HFT:
60/2.8 + 90/2.4 + 90/2.4-8 + 150/2.8
Schneider AV-Xenotar CF 90/2.4
Schneider Vario Xenotar 70-120/3.5
Rollei AV-Apogon: 35/2.8 + 90/2.4
Rollei S-Heidosmat MC 90/2.8
Rollei AV-Heidosmat 250/4.3
Rolleivision Twin MSC 325P
(Twin 42.5mm barrels)
1993-2014As MSC 300P
Rolleivision Twin MSC 535P
(Twin 42.5mm barrels)
2004-2015
  • Present in 1975 catalogue, but not in 1969

The entry-level standard lens for all Rollei 35mm slide projectors was the 85mm f2.8 triplet – typically in a plastic 42.5mm barrel. Between 1960 and 1973 this Isco-made, single-coated lens was designated ‘Rollei-Projar’ and marked ‘Made in Germany’, or ‘Isco-Göttingen’ with the catalogue number [979 390]. However, during the early 1970s Rollei set up a substantial manuacturing facility in Singapore that would at its peak employ the majority of Rollei’s workforce. From 1973 – or perhaps a little earlier – certainly by the time of the P350 AF’s launch – many Rollei projectors shipped with the new, in-house developed, multicoated 85mm f2.8 MC Heidosmat lens proudly marked ‘Made in Singapore’. Probably this had the catalogue number [979 392].

Between 1973 and 1981, Rollei continued to offer the Isco-made version – now also labeled Heidosmat, and multicoated – with the catalogue number [979 393]. The choice may have been territorial, or varied according to supply and demand, but contemporary catalogues (ie, 1974-75) describe the P350A still shipping with the Isco triplet (still designated Projar), and the P350 AF shipping with the Rollei Heidosmat version, inviting the suggestion that Rollei may have favoured one lens over the other for mechanical or optical reasons.

[INSERT COMPARISON BETWEEN ISCO PROJAR/ROLLEI HEIDOSMAT 85/2.8 MC]

Proliferation on the used market – certainly in the UK, US and Europe – seems to indicate that the majority of stock triplets shipped with Rollei projectors between 1973-1981 were Rollei-made Singapore versions. However, this period ended sharply in 1981/82 when Rollei declared bankruptcy and Singapore production ceased [CONFiRM SouRCE]. On-the-ground shipment of the Rollei Heidosmat 85/2.8 doubtless continued for as last as stock lasted, but Rollei catalogues from 1981 onward only offer the Isco-made Heidosmat MC [979 393].

Down the decades, four designations were given to Rollei lenses: Projar, Heidosmat, AV-Xenotar and AV-Apogon. The interchangeable nature of the 42.5mm barrel mount for many German-made 35mm slide projectors enabled crossover between these optics and machines made by Agfa, Braun, Kindermann, Silma and Kodak, and quite frequently the same lens appeared in different livery, simultaneously bundled with different models. Rollei’s catalogues transparently presented a pick-n-mix of different manufacturers and lens types, but here we disambiguate as far as possible who made what, and how they differed . . . .

The Projar (AKA Isco) Family

The Projar designation invariably indicates that a lens was made by Isco. Projar lenses are also found in ‘Gnome-Projar’, ‘Carousel Projar’ and other variants, depending on the manufacturer of the projector. Prior to 1982 there was also an Optische Werke Göttingen or Isco-labeled Projar series of lenses with silver metal body, black nose and 62.5mm barrel, made for projection of large format advertisement slides in cinemas.

Rollei-Projar lenses for 35mm slide projection were typically plastic-bodied 85mm triplets, but Isco also made fine, five-element metal-barrel versions of the standard lens at appropriately elevated prices: for instance, in 1968, the stock Rollei-Projar 85/28 retailed at 30 Deutschmarks but buyers of the Rollei-S-Projar 90/2.5 paid a premium of more than 400% (DM 123). Like Superman, these so-called ‘Super-Projars’ displayed an S on the front, but only gave their full name in company literature and – in certain eras – on the packaging. Isco’s afocal Iscovar 0.8-1.3X converter and 150mm f3.5 lenses were also designated Super-Projar optics. It’s likely that the pre-1982 Isco-Göttingen V/S-Projar 90/2.5 was the single-coated predecessor of the S-Projar, but perhaps not identical to the Isco-Göttingen V/S-Heidosmat 90/2.4.

CatalogueElementsLaunched
Projar for 35mm Slide Projection
Rollei-Projar 50mm f2.8 (for 18 x 24mm)979 3801968
Rollei-Projar 85mm f2.8979 3901968
Rollei-S-Projar 90mm f2.5979 5005 / 5 *1969
Isco-Göttingen V/S-Projar 90mm f2.55 / 5
Rollei-Vario-Projar 70-120mm f3.5979 4101968
Rollei-Projar 150mm f3.5979 7701973
[Super Projar] Iscovar 0.8-13X Converter658 20
Projar for 6×6 (Rollei 66 Series)
Isco-Göttingen S-Projar 150mm f2.8 MC5 / 51980
Projar in 62.5mm Barrel
Projar 300mm f5.1
  • ColorFoto December 1978 reported S-Projar and S-Heidosmat 90/2.5 as six-element lenses, but correctly identified them in January 1974 as five-element.

Among slide projection optics, Projar lenses are more commonly associated with the 35mm format, with some exceptions noted above. Between 1960 and c.1980 it was a relatively clear-cut distinction that diferentiated them from the Heidosmat-branded lenses used for medium format projection. Subsequently, however, Heidosmat branding proliferated, as we’ll see. . .

Heidosmat Variants

Heidosmat lenses were supplied with the first, and the last, Rollei projectors – as well as Voigtlander, and Silma projectors. A few were in-house designs produced by Rollei, but the majority (see below) were still made by Isco. First generation Heidosmats were often marked ‘Franke & Heidecke’. Heidosmat was also the designation of the four-element Xenar-type viewing lens fitted to the Rolleiflex camera range.

As noted above, between 1960 and c.1975, Heidosmat referred exclusively to medium format projection lenses. But in 1974, a Rollei-designed, Singapore-manufactured 85mm f2.8 Heidosmat was issued as a standard lens for the new Rollei P350 AF – a 35mm slide projector. From this point on, Heidosmat lenses began to replace the Projars. In time – from the late 1980s, at least – Heidosmat became Rollei’s way of identifying home-brewed lenses that weren’t Schneiders.

Given the difficulty of generalising about the provenance of Heidosmat, S-Heidosmat, and V/S-Heidosmat lenses, the following case-by-case chart is needed.

MakerCatalogueElementsLaunched
Medium-Format and P11 Heidosmat Lenses
Heidosmat 45mm f2.8 (for 12x17mm)Isco610 2401963
Franke & Heidecke Heidosmat 110mm f2.8Isco610 2001960
Heidosmat 150mm f3.5Isco979 7801974
Heidosmat 150mm f2.8Isco610 2101960
S-Heidosmat 150mm f2.8?979 5105 / 51970
Vario-Heidosmat 110-160mm f3.5 [V1]Isco979 0301961
Vario-Heidosmat 110-160mm f3.5 [V2]Isco979 0351974
Heidosmat 180mm f3.5 [V1]Isco610 2201962
Heidosmat 180mm f3.5 [V2]Isco610 2251974
Heidosmat 250mm f3.0 [V1]Isco610 2301960
Heidosmat 250mm f3.0 [V2]Isco610 2351974
Heidosmat 400mm f4.0 [V1]Isco979 0401962
Heidosmat 400mm f4.0 [V2]Isco979 9101974
35mm Format Heidosmat Lenses (42.5mm barrel)
Rollei-Heidosmat 50mm f2.8 for Rolleiscop (46mm)Isco1965
Rollei-Heidosmat 85mm f2.8 for Rolleiscop (46mm)Isco979 1601965
Heidosmat 85mm f2.8Isco979 3923 / 31978
Heidosmat 85mm f2.8 MCIsco979 3933 / 31981
S-Heidosmat 85mm f2.8 MC (Singapore?)Rollei979 3943 / 31989
S-Heidosmat 90mm f2.56<1978
V/S-Heidosmat 90mm f2.4 [V1]Isco979 3911980
V/S Heidosmat 90mm f2.4 [V2]Isco979 4001985
Rollei-Heidosmat 110mm f2.8 for Rolleiscop (46mm)Isco979 1701965
Heidosmat 150mm f3.5Rollei979 7701979
Heidosmat 250mm f4.3Isco610 2451979
AV-Heidosmat 250mm f4.3Rollei85 1371994

Schneider Kreuznach AV-Xenotar

Xenotar always designates a Schneider-made lens. The textbook Xenotar is a five-element design. Later, six or seven-element variants appeared, but there has been some controversy over whether AV-Xenotar designated projection lenses were an Ernostar-like four-element variant in which the second and third elements were combined. It can be confirmed that the medium-format AV-Xenotars were indeed true five-element Xenotars, but what of the more common AV-Xenotar 90mm f2.4 lenses that seem so similar to the Reflecta / Braun / Agfa 90/2.4?

Rollei AV-Apogon

At some point around the turn of the millennium Rollei debuted their own high-end lenses designed to compete with, or even exceed, the performance of Schneider’s AV-Xenotars. Rollei AV-Apogons for 35mm slide projection were four element lenses, very similar, but not identical to the Braun Profiline and Agfa Agomar MCs. AV-Apogons for medium format projection were larger and more complex six-element designs.

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